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Canada Post could face Aurora backlash over community mail boxes

May 6, 2015   ·   3 Comments

By Brock Weir

As the City of Hamilton and Canada Post prepare to go to court this month over the city’s forceful measures for adequate public consultation on the placement of community mailboxes, urban municipalities are keeping an eye on the proceedings – but Aurora might soon have a vested interest in the case.

If you’re one of the estimated 4,000 Aurora residents still receiving home mail delivery, chances are you have resigned yourselves to the fact those days will soon be numbered in favour of community mailboxes. But, have you been asked where you’d like these community mailboxes to go?
That’s what Councillor Tom Mrakas wants to know.

Next week, Council will review a Notice of Motion from the Councillor urging Aurora to endorse Hamilton’s opposition to the elimination of home mail delivery and the installation of community mailboxes. If approved, this motion calls on Mayor Dawe to demand the Minister Responsible for Canada Post to immediately halt the installations and “engage in full and meaningful consultation with all stakeholders, including the Town and its residents.”

“There are concerns residents have and lots of feedback that we haven’t been involved in any consultation,” says Councillor Mrakas. “At first, what we heard at the table was Canada Post is working with the municipality to a certain point, but there isn’t much we can do. Being a new Councillor, I took it for what it is, but then I heard what Hamilton is doing and I thought there is something we should do. This is something we should get behind and fight for our residents, our taxpayers, and look for that consultation to happen.”

Everyone realises community mailboxes are going to happen, he says, and the motion is not about stopping what’s coming. Rather, it is about getting Aurora to “exert our authority over the land which we own.”

To this end, Councillor Mrakas’ motion goes further, requesting recommendations by the end of the month on aligning Aurora’s bylaws with Hamilton’s, regulating the installation of equipment on roads and appropriate property standards measures to require Canada Post to file for permits – and a fee – “that reflects the resources required and costs incurred by the Town to install community mailboxes in established neighbourhoods.”

“We have municipal standards and regulations in regards to the planning when it comes to our rights of way,” he says. “We maintain them, we own them, costs incurred are ours and the taxpayers’, therefore we should have a say when someone is looking to install something, whether it is Canada Post, Bell or any type of utility. That way we could have meaningful conversation with the residents and have them be able to put it in and say, ‘You know what? This might be a better place for that mailbox.’

“With all due respect to Canada Post, they just look at a map and say this is a good location, but who knows the Town and the Town roads better than the residents who live here and the people who work here? We are the ones who know which spots are better. To put a community mailbox in the Heritage District right on the front boulevard of one of our most historical houses is not right. It wouldn’t fit in with the existing neighbourhood. The intent is to say to Canada Post you can’t just come in and do what you want on our property. You need to follow the rules that are set out for everyone.”

Community mailboxes in some of Aurora’s newer communities were placed in locations as the communities developed and grew, and were subject to municipal planning processes and, thus, were also the subject of what he describes as “meaningful conversation.” Placing community mailboxes in existing neighbourhoods, on the other hand, is a separate matter altogether.

“Hamilton has taken the lead and I commend them for doing what they have done,” said Councillor Mrakas. “I think the more municipalities and the more towns jump on board we have a stronger voice together and maybe we can finally say to the Federal government: ‘Hey, what’s going on here? This is our municipal right of way, we pay for them, maintain them, and we expect to have that meaningful consultation process before these boxes are installed.’ They say they do it, but they’re not. To speak to just a few residents who are directly in front of [the potential location] is…not meaningful consultation.”

         

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Readers Comments (3)

  1. Early on in the consultation process, my wife and I participated in the Community Mailbox online survey. Subsequently, a few months ago we received a one-page notification from Canada Post, indicating that a location for the box in our area had been finalized. Within the notice’s text was the phrase “the property has been chosen”. We weren’t sure if the reference was to our shallow sideyard boulevard, so I made an official inquiry. A lady from Canada Post phoned me back and indicated that their reference was not to our side-yard boulevard since it had none of the preferred characteristics. She went on to indicate the precise location which had been chosen by referring us to it via “Goggle Street View”. It was on a deep boulevard, had a close-by ideal street-light and no intervening tree canopy. She also said that consultation had been made with the Town of Aurora as to the locations. She said that the boxes’ slabs would be constructed this May.

    It strikes me that either Canada Post misinformed us that they had consulted with the town or someone in the town has “dropped the ball” consultation-wise. Never-the-less, it’s strikes me that its now late in the twelfth-hour of the process. Someone in one of the organizations may have fouled-up .. or maybe there’s just a few vocal last minute uninformed reactions. Either way, it sure comes across like a miscommunication!

    Unfortunately, the narrower streets of the old area don’t have overly deep boulevards. Boulevards with sidewalks typically don’t have enough depth left to put community mail boxes on .. necessitating that boxes be placed on the boulevards across the street.

    Aurora’s Feedback Report can be downloaded at …
    https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/assets/pdf/cmb/feedbackReport_aurora_12-20_en.pdf

  2. Follow-up …

    I just accessed the Canada Post website at ..
    https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/cmb?execution=e1s1

    Upon me entering our postal code, it informed me that we were only at step #1 of the process .. which was very much at odds with the information we’d already been provided with verbally over the phone months ago by a Canada Post representative.

    I subsequently phoned 1-844-454-3009 and spoke with “Stephan” at Canada Post. who accessed the same website for our postal code area in Aurora. He indicated that our area was still in the Community Consultation stage. When I told him that a Canada Post staff-person had indicated to us months ago where our local box would be and that concrete pads were to be installed in May, he was quite taken back.

    After the phone conversation with “Stephan”, I returned to the Canada Post website at ..
    https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/cmb?execution=e1s1 and entered the following sampling of addresses’ postal codes. They all came-up as only being at the Community Consultation stage.

    16 Parkland Crt., L4G 2M6
    32 Maple St., L4G 1K9
    80 Mosley St., L4G 1H1
    52 Royal Road, L4G 1A9
    26 Child Drive, L4G 1Y5
    29 Jasper Dr., L4G 3B6

    Has Canada Post rescheduled the entire process for Aurora? Perhaps headlines such as that at the CBC “GTA town to consider joining Hamilton’s fight with Canada Post” has caused them to return to Step #1 of the process?

    As I said before, it sure comes across like a miscommunication!

    Hopefully by next week’s council meeting, some solid clear details can be shared by Canada Post and Town Staff with our councillors and residents.

  3. I made further inquiries of the Town’s Infrastructure Department on Friday and was informed that consultations with the town had been made by Canada Post, but only as required .. when pad placements and town utilities might be at odds.

    I was also informed that slab work had already commenced in the south part of town. Yesterday, I had occasion to be in the estate subdivision east of Yonge and north of Bloomington. I observed a new pad placement where a culvert had been installed over a storm-drainage ditch, over which fill had been placed, a concrete pad installed and asphalt laid around.

    This all tells me that Aurora has already been at the “Location” phase of the project for quite a while! Just now, I’ve revisted the Canada Post website at .. https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/cmb?execution=e1s1 and low-and-behold Aurora is now being officially portrayed as at the “Location” phase.

    Again, misinformation had led to confusion!


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